Remove chicanes
Making the Park-Glenallan Drive connection unnecessarily awkward for trailers, wheelchair users and others.
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Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 1 thread
Making the Park-Glenallan Drive connection unnecessarily awkward for trailers, wheelchair users and others.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
The gate at the top of the cycle path, at Lasswade road, is very difficult to open when you're on a bicycle, and it swings into to path.
It is not clear why a gate is needed here in the first place (the whole fence is quite pointless), it could be removed.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
Some kind of connection across Lasswade Rd (40mph!!), either an underpass or a toucan crossing, to connect the Burdiehouse Burn paths.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 1 thread
There should be a walking/cycling connection between Lidl and the housing behind it (Craigmillar Castle Avenue area).
People living there are forced a long detour down to Niddrie Mains Rd then up to Lidl again. This encourages car use and discourages walking.
Niddrie Mains Rd is terrible for cycling so this connection would also benefit people cycling from Greendykes or Inch (through the park).
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
The fence around the car part at Inch House has no gap at the back (there is a gate to allow access to the waste bins but it's locked). This forces walkers and cyclists into a very narrow path along the wall and entrance of Inch House, too narrow to pass others and people leaving the house step right into your path.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
Important crossing point between Craigmillar Castle Park and Inch Park. Very dangerous because the bends in Old Dalkeith Road make cars from both directions difficult to see, and the width of the road encourages speeding well above 30mph (there is a speed display which is triggered by most cars).
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
Chicanes too narrow for trailers. Also they are at the bottom of a slope, so when you turn into the path you can't use any momentum to get uphills.
They are at the end of the tarmac path through Craigmillar Park, an essential route connecting Inch and Craigmillar and the only way to avoid either the Cameron Toll mess or the Craigmillar Castle Road ratrun.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
Convert some of the pavement along Niddrie Mains Rd to a proper segregated cycle path. The pavement is already very wide, and east of Craigmillar Castle Av it already almost looks like a cycle path as there is an additional kerb in the middle of the pavement, dividing it into two 2m wide paths.
It would need a few dropped kerbs and repair of a few potholes, but other than that it could be easily converted into a cycle path. Many people cycle on there already (illegally).
It is important because Niddrie Mains Rd is very busy, often jammed, with many pinch points that lead to dangerously overtaking.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 4 threads
Two sets of chicanes that are unnecessary and difficult to get through.
This is an important bike/pedestrian connection to avoid busy Niddrie Mains Rd.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 2 threads
The feeder lane between the bus stop and the ASL in Liberton Rd northbound should be segregated. Road and pavement are very wide here, so it would be easy to add a cycle lane segregated by a kerb to replace the curernt painted feeder lane.
The painted feeder lane is extremely dangerous as the road bends left, so that buses, HGVs and other vehicles regularly encroach on it. Just today I saw another cyclist almost pushed onto the kerb when a bus started to move.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
The bike lane (end of the "quality" bike corridor) on Mayfield Rd southbound ends about a hundred metres before the junction with Liberton Rd. It should extend up to the junction, and ideally continue through to Kirk Brae and Liberton Road.
Extending the bike lane would allow cyclists to pass the queuing cars and get to the traffic lights. At the moment, cyclists are stuck at the bottom of the steep hill at the end of the cycle lane, and then can cycle up only very slowly, with lot of angry car driver behind them. It often takes two green phases to get from the end of the cycle lane to the actual lights, unless you overtake on the right against oncoming traffic speeding around the corner from Liberton Rd.
This is a key junction as there are no other routes between KB and Liberton/Gilmerton (except going around to Cameron Toll which is not much better).
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 7 threads
Need dropped kerb and a few metres of footpath to connect the existing footpath, so that people can cross at the existing traffic island to get to the road leading to the recycling centre.
This is a very important pedestrian and cycle connection between the Inch and Craigmillar Castle Park. You can see from the desire line that many people walk across there already.
The high kerb makes it impossible to use for people with bicycles, wheelchairs, buggies etc. They are forced to travel along the busy Old Dalkeith Road rather than cross it directly.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
Convert the existing pelican crossing to toucan. Needs also a dropped kerb before the lights so that you can get there from the cycle lane.
The reason is that it is very difficult to turn left into Walter Scott Avenue from Dalkeith Road. It is uphills with a lot of traffic, making it very unpleasant and quite dangerous to leave the cycle lane and move into the centre of the road for turning left.
Created by Donald Noble // 1 thread
Access barrier (presumably to stop motorbikes) is too narrow to permit access by some bikes, including mountain bikes with wide bars, plus all sorts of accessible bicycles, as well as pushchairs/wheelchairs/mobility scooters etc.
Created by Donald Noble // 0 threads
The existing cycle parking outside Haymarket station has nowhere near enough capacity, and more spaces should be provided.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
Created by HankChief // 0 threads
No dropped kerb to give easy access to/from the East Craigs Path Network.
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Created by Rob Earl // 0 threads
Gravel/muddy slope section of QR20, the rest of which is tarmac path/roads.
Created by Rob Earl // 1 thread
Access to QR10 from Fillyside Road requires either:
- Cycle across busy/fast road and up full height kerb
- Turn right onto busy/fast road for ~100m, turn left up dropped (but not flush) kerb
- Cycle on pavement and cross at traffic island
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 1 thread
The gate at the north end of the Innocent tunnel only leaves a narrow opening.
1. It's generally too narrow for trailers etc.
2. You move from bright light outside into the darkness of the tunnel, and going into the tunnel you often can't see people cycling or walking out; this would not be an issue of the full width of the path was usable.
3. The gap is at the edge of the path with various surface defects
Created by Kokomo // 0 threads
usually have to wait a very long time here - reduce the wait time after pushing the button! This crossing needs to be more responsive like the one round the corner on Clerk St.
This small change will make a big difference to this route to the Innocent Path
The Dalmeny Park house builders have installed new chicanes on NCN route 1. Unfortunately none of these meet the guidlines for chicanes on cycling facilities.
Created by acsimpson // 0 threads
There is a gate across the full width of the national cycle network just west of the Railway line past Dalmeny. This forces all path users to use the uneven verge which can get very muddy at certain times of year.
Created by acsimpson // 1 thread
The traffic island on Maybury Road at the Maybury Junction is too small to accommodate cyclists (especially those pulling child trailers, etc) other than at it's extreme southern end. As this is a two stage crossing it can lead to either the need to cross when red or wait partly blocking the carriageway.
The light timings need changed to allow a full crossing at once or the island needs to be extended.
Created by acsimpson // 0 threads
Maybury Road is nominally a 40mph road however a brief observation period will quickly reveal many drivers going at 60mph or more. This is not a suitable speed for a high use cycle route. The pavements are badly maintained and yet still used by the majority of cyclists using the road, especially uphill in either direction.
The traffic lights at either end of the road only ever allow one lane of traffic onto the road at a time which encourages drivers to overtake each other at high speed.
A two way cycle route should be built the length of the road taking the space currently allocated to the uphill lane in either direction. The earlier removal of the southbound uphill section illustrates the redundancy of the extra lane nicely.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 1 thread
A large number of brick strips have been installed across the path in Magdalene Glen in early 2017.
While these do nothing at all to deter fast cyclists, they are a real pain for slow cyclists, people with arthritic hands (due to the vibrations and need to grip the handlebar very strongly).
It is not clear if there has been any consultation about these measures. Neither Spokes nor anybody on the CEC forum seems to have been aware of the plans.
Created by Sefton // 1 thread
The Lovers Loan shared path through the Grange has at least 5 very tight barriers along its length, and missing dropped kerbs - especially at the crossing of Dick Place. Removing barriers or widening them would make it much more easy to use for bikes, buggies and wheelchairs. Even some double pushchairs don't fit!
Barriers, so many barriers, most of which should be removed.
Created by FrenchyF // 0 threads
Dropped kerbs should be added at each end of the path between Captain's Road and Captain's Drive.
Always been a bit of a problem - worse for pedestrians than cyclists.
Detailed (re-)design is apparently underway.
"Temporary" barrier/road closure created because of Leith Walk tram 'works'.
No-one seems willing to take responsibility for restoring/creating/protecting decent permeable route.
Created by Donald Noble // 0 threads
It would be useful to have signage at this location to show the route onto the cycle path. Coming north along Lochend Road from the A8/Airport it is not clear that you need to head into the treatment works access road to see the path leading onto the main cycle path.
Created by Donald Noble // 0 threads
The existing cycle parking outside Haymarket station has nowhere near enough capacity, and more spaces should be provided.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 1 thread
The footbridge has lot of steps, even though it is a shallow ramp; apparently the designers did not expect that people with bicycles, wheelchairs, buggys or trolleys might ever want to use the bridge.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
Important connection to get from Gilmerton Rd to Liberton Rd/Mayfield Rd/Kings Buildings, but road surface is badly cratered with some deep holes in blind corners.
Created by Stephan Matthiesen // 0 threads
Road was converted to one-way recently, forcing cyclists from Kings Buildings out onto busy West Mains Rd where previously they could cycle within the campus to the toucan at the NE corner.